PSA

Jun. 6th, 2006 07:59 pm
raven: [hello my name is] and a silhouette image of a raven (girl!doctor - empires toppling)
[personal profile] raven
Clearly, making this post before I deleted my journal would have been an infinitely better idea. In fact, I probably would have done that had it not been for my brain being eaten by a) life in general and b) [livejournal.com profile] thecapitalc's crazy birthday party. But after the fact is as good, I guess. (Before I go on, though, I'm perfectly all right - for the usual end-of-Trinity-nearly-exams given value - and I did not mean to make anyone worry, for which I am so, so sorry. [livejournal.com profile] tau_sigma, I got your text mere minutes after I deleted my journal and was very touched. Thank you.)

There were two reasons for the deletion. The first of these is, as guessed, the SixApart breast-feeding controversy. This article makes for a pretty good summary of it, but as a brief explanation, an LJ user with an axe to grind reported another user for having a default icon of a baby being fed at the breast. LJ Abuse responded, bizarrely, by suspending the journals of all users who had similar icons on the grounds that the nudity was unacceptable. Given that some of most prominent work-safe sites around - Wiki, the BBC - make deliberate exception for breast feeding, this does seem rather odd. What was odder, though, is that when people complained, LJ (or, possibly, SixApart - it's hard to tell) refused to change their policy and continued suspending the accounts of those with the default icons, including people who had changed their icons deliberately to make a point (notably the user formally known as [livejournal.com profile] yonmei). So there was a protest - details here - that involved lots of people deleting their LJs for one day, 06/06/06. (Although it's still the sixth in this time zone (GMT, or rather BST), I'm going out now and have thus undeleted.)

What do I think? I'm not sure. I do think that LJ icons are massively, massively overrated and if the whole lot were removed from the site tomorrow I wouldn't be heartbroken. But that's probably not the point. I think that the position being taken here is really rather odd, as it seems inconsistent with most other authorities on the subject, and indeed, yes, women do breastfeed in public, so why should it be considered obscene? I'm not really on board with those who want to make it a feminist issue, because I doubt that it's that deep - I just think it's odd.

And it's worrying, too. I don't like the direction things on LJ are taking lately - the introduction of the Sponsored level accounts irritated me quite a lot, as the one thing I've really loved about LJ all these years is the clean functionality sans adverts. We have the rest of the internet for adverts. I'm quite happy supporting the site with my paid account and not having to cope with adverts anywhere, no matter the level of the journal I'm reading and no matter whether I'm logged in. And more than that, I don't like the way LJ Abuse aren't listening to what people have to say. It doesn't feel like a site run by volunteer enthusiasts, which is what LJ always was, for all that they took on paid staff and suchlike.

[livejournal.com profile] yonmei writes here that fandom has "too many eggs in one corporate-owned basket." I don't know about that - surely the point of fandom on LJ is that lots and lots of people are here and it's easy to find other fans - and I'm certainly not leaving here any time soon. I couldn't leave LJ in general and my LJ in particular, because it's hardly exaggerating to say that no website has done more for me than this one has, and nothing has made me more friends in more places. Fandom is the reason, but LJ is the medium, and that's important.

But I had to register my protest. I just hope they listen. I don't want things to change.

The other, much more prosaic reason for the deletion was my wondering if perhaps I would get more revision done if I were without my friends page for a couple of weeks. On reflection I think I'll keep it existent for the time being, as I am actually being rather good where internet procrastination is concerned - because I'm spending all my time in the libraries and reading rooms, I don't have the same easy methods of procrastination. I'm only here for as long as it takes to check my friends page and scribble fairly quick entries, and then I'm gone, logged out so I'm not tempted just to refresh the friends page. So yes - you're not getting rid of me yet. And I'm sorry for making anyone worry.

Other things what are of note - I spent most of this afternoon sitting in front of Balliol sifting through a very large stack of Home Office forms. As of this Friday, I will hold dual nationality. I'm quite pleased with this. I have also discovered I was not born a British citizen, I was naturalised when I was two! How this fact has escaped me for nineteen years, I have no idea.

And, and, and revision is going well because I did an essay this afternoon and used a PARTIAL DERIVATIVE as part of the argument! Feel the excitement. It's the greatest irony of all, that economics is suddenly settling in mind with clarity and precision in my last fortnight of studying it.

Time to go and read Mill. And again, I apologise for making people worry. I'm so sorry.

on 2006-06-06 07:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosariotijeras.livejournal.com
I am so, so, so, so glad that you are not deleting your journal, Iona. You're one of my favorite people on LJ, and I truly do look forward to your entries. <33333.

on 2006-06-06 11:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I really, really appreciate that. Thank you for missing me. *g*

on 2006-06-07 03:38 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosariotijeras.livejournal.com
It was pretty effortless. :)

on 2006-06-06 07:28 pm (UTC)
gwynnega: (Romana II hello calapine)
Posted by [personal profile] gwynnega
I'm glad you're back!!

on 2006-06-07 12:00 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*glompage* Thank you.

on 2006-06-06 07:30 pm (UTC)
cedara: (*Brille*-DW-Ten-specs)
Posted by [personal profile] cedara
I wondered what was up and asked Lara if she heard anything. Personally, I suspected exam hell and you trying not to get tempted with lj and flist.

I am glad to hear you're ok. :-)

on 2006-06-07 12:01 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
And you were mostly right. :) *loves*

on 2006-06-06 07:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hips-lips-tits.livejournal.com
i'm glad you stayed. i was worried, and then i said '... i don't know how to ask her what happened!'

i have noticed that my posts have declined in quality since we first started reading each others' journals. it used to be that when i had nothing of substance to post about, i would at least make it sound pretty. now, it's just a bunch of random blather.

but your posts just keep getting longer and better. ;)

on 2006-06-07 12:08 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
That is the ridiculous part about LJ deletion. I've often thought there should be a way of leaving just one thing up - an email address, or something. Perhaps that's me missing the point.

You will not be being defriended any time soon, my dear. *g* I'm really glad that you're still reading after all these years. (And it has been years. Oh, my.)

on 2006-06-06 08:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] apestaartje.livejournal.com
Yey, I'm glad you're back! :)

on 2006-06-07 12:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*squishing of Sarah*

on 2006-06-06 09:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] bekkypk.livejournal.com
*glomp*
Missed you.
Though tbh, I hadn't heard of all the drama till today - and drama with the abuse team is something i'm kinda used to hearing about with my circle of friends. They really need to overhaul it and sort it out because some of the favouritism that goes on within it is unacceptable for a business.
All things considered, I'm not sure anything will change though. LJ continues to do whatever it wants - or maybe it is just Sixapart - who knows for certain.
xx

on 2006-06-07 12:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*glomp* I saw your post - thanks for missing me! *g*

You're absolutely right. It's just a matter of waiting to see what either LJ or SixApart do.

on 2006-06-07 06:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] bekkypk.livejournal.com
*glomps again for good measure* :D
xx

on 2006-06-06 10:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] walkertxkitty.livejournal.com
I really don't understand their position on the whole breastfeeding controversy. In all of the pics I've seen, you can't see ANYTHING, just a baby on what looks like an extremely comfortable pillow. The women are clothed, you can't even see any nipples. On the other hand, several of my friends have as default icons genitalia dressed in Nazi sweaters and all manner of things which are both illegal and offensive....but perfectly okay by LJ standards.

But then, it appears to depend on who handles the issue. I've noticed with support and abuse issues that if you get a paid employee you are far more likely to get decent results than if you get a volunteer. Volunteers, in my experience, seem far more likely to act on support and abuse issues from their personal points of view rather than ToS or legalities.

on 2006-06-07 12:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Perhaps that's the problem - that LJ isn't a corporate entity or a volunteer-run organisation; it's somewhere in the middle, which is leading to weirdness and suchlike.

on 2006-06-06 10:53 pm (UTC)
tau_sigma: (Ten)
Posted by [personal profile] tau_sigma
Breastfeeding, or rather the furore it seems to cause, is odd. I was discussing it with a friend the other day; how people are perfectly happy with gratuitous naked breasts on page 3 of the Sun, but when they're shown in motherly context no one can cope. ('Men think they're just for fun,' was our conclusion. *g*)

And no worries about the worryingness (I am sorry, I am so tired I can't form proper useful sentences). I happened to be replying to a comment when suddenly it told me you were no more, which was rather disconcerting. But hey, I've spoken to you, and know what you sound like now. Always good. :)

on 2006-06-07 12:31 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I don't understand it, either! I really wish they'd ban page three girls. They are the most horrendous things. And yes, of course; they lend themselves to all kinds of double standards.

I'm still really sorry. *blushes* And also sorry for sounding like such a complete ditz before - I'd forgotten to eat breakfast and lunch again, hence the single-minded focus on food! - but it was very good to finally talk to you. *loves*

on 2006-06-06 11:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] casirafics.livejournal.com
Mostly, I don't understand journal-deletion protests for the simple reason that if your journal is gone, no one has any way of finding out why you're gone, barring wibbly e-mails and "anyone know what happened to...?" posts. In any case, though, am glad all is well. ;) Having gotten a comment from you a couple hours before the deletion, I figured it was, but I'm glad you're back.

I'm not really on board with those who want to make it a feminist issue, because I doubt that it's that deep - I just think it's odd.

It is odd, more than a bit silly, and a knee-jerk reaction to a cheap-shot complaint that's not making anyone look good. I did defriend someone over their level of ranting re: the issue, I must admit, since I don't quite understand why it's so important to defend to the (LJ)death the right to force everyone to stare at your tits in your default icon -- hers pretty much did, and without the baby excuse. (Strips of tape in strategic places aren't fooling anyone.) Thus, the whole thing got old for me pretty quickly.

I know what you mean about LJ these days, though. Many small strangenesses can lead to significant issues in distressingly short order....

on 2006-06-07 12:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
S'good to be back, and I'm apologising all round. The rationale behind the deletions, rather than any other kind of protest, is quite interesting and is linked above, but it does have that rather fatal flaw, you're right. *g*

It's quite silly, what people will stand on as their rights. It's not the issue itself that gets me here, though, it's LJ's refusal to listen.

(Strategic tape? Really? That's really very, very sad.)

on 2006-06-07 12:43 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] casirafics.livejournal.com
Electrical tape, no less. ;) (OBSERVE MY HIGH-VOLTAGE BREASTS!)

In all fairness, I don't think they were actually hers, but y'know. the point stands. :) And good lord, what icon do I use on THIS post...?

on 2006-06-06 11:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gamesiplay.livejournal.com
Good to hear you're okay--I figured it was something about work and exams, but just wanted to be sure. LJ has facilitated my paranoid tendencies to an alarming extent. :)

on 2006-06-07 12:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*clings to Leigh*
*clings to LJ*

on 2006-06-07 07:17 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] thecapitalc.livejournal.com
My birthday party was crazy? Woman, you need to get out more :P ;)

Joking, I'm really glad you came. :)

on 2006-06-09 07:15 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
Good to see you back. I suspected you were away for one or other of the reasons you gave. You may also have inspired me to write an exam-stress ficlet -- watch this space.

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