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[personal profile] raven
Yaaay, Doctor Who. I thought that was great, great fun. I'm not sure I thought a great deal of the Time Lords coming back - althogh Timothy Dalton was perfectly cast - and the Master's clones all over the shop. No, what I liked was basically, Wilf, yaaay Wilf, the Doctor talks to Wilf, Wilf talks to the Doctor, Wilf IS AWESOME.

Etc.

I also liked the salvage aliens. "That's cacti!" / "That's racist!"

And also, I liked John Simm. Although the whole Master thing not really what I liked the episode for, he is a wonderful actor. And Wilf's groupies! The lovely bus of people who can find the Doctor for him, and it doesn't seem to be explained how they managed it (I remember Clive, in the first season, who had spent years trying to find the Doctor) - it's just the power for awesome that is Wilf, I s'pose.

But yes. When the Time Lords and the Master disappear, and the Doctor does his farewell tour, this is what I loved. I loved the Martha-and-Mickey-are-amazing show, I especially loved Verity Newman, Joan Refdfern's great-something granddaughter. The bar, which looked like Milliways - I loved the care, time, money and attention that clearly was put into it, for all it's a five-minute scene - where the Doctor gives Jack a boyfriend as a going-away present. Donna's wedding was lovely, too. (And Wilf's earlier explanation that she is not going to be Donna Noble-Temple, which does sound like a tourist attraction.) The lovely lady who wants Wilf to marry her. And the lottery ticket, which is maybe the first time that's ever been done in the forty-year history of a show about time travel.

Oh, and Rose! When the camera panned in on them I thought it was going to be silly. But... it wasn't. It totally wasn't. I liked the glimpse of Jackie, and then Rose being sweet, and likeable - from her perspective she's stopped to help a drunk guy in an alley - and there's a nice image of the TARDIS in the background too, covered in snow, as it always ought to be in a Doctor Who special.

About the mysterious woman, then - credited as "the Woman". My theory is that she is the Watcher. (As in, Logopolis - the odd, Michelin-man type figure who follows Four around for all of the episode, as some sort of herald of death.) But of course I may be wrong.

And finally, Matt Smith - whom so far I kind of like. ([livejournal.com profile] forthwritten has Issues about his hair, but I like that, too.) He's kind of sweet. And as Shim notes, he checks his Adam's apple to see what gender he is after he's checked his nose and his legs and his ears are there. And it's nice to know that he could be a woman, if... I don't know, circumstances are different? But yes, I liked him.

Finally finally, David Tennant. I still love him. I really, really do. I'm very glad he was the Doctor for four years. Onwards and upwards.

on 2010-01-01 11:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sebastienne.livejournal.com
I said restaurant-at-the-end-of-the-universe before the people I was watching with pointed out it was a Mos Eisley cantina reference. Generally, yes, all-the-above, but the Martha/Mickey thing seems oddly second-best; he wasn't good enough for Rose, she wasn't good enough for the Doctor, let's pair them off, y'know?

on 2010-01-02 12:33 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I agree with you re: Martha/Mickey. I liked Martha's romance with the doctor she met in the year the Master controlled Earth; I thought that was a much nicer ending for her.

on 2010-01-02 01:17 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] liminereid.livejournal.com
I just found the Mickey/Martha thing utterly perplexing. I just couldn't imagine when and why they'd get hitched.

on 2010-01-02 12:09 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] tau_sigma
I don't want to hate on anything, so I'll settle for agreeing with [livejournal.com profile] liminereid: just why would they do that? Teaming up to fight aliens, ok, but you don't have to be married to do that. I liked her engagement to Tom. *sadface*

(Also, Martha seemed entirely not-Martha-like. Was that just me? I felt she was suddenly squeezed into being Mickey's alien-fighting girlfriend wife - what happened to her doctoring? She trained for all those years, and now...? *sigh*)

on 2010-01-02 12:25 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] songfortenftw.livejournal.com
I just feel that matt smith was trying to be david tennant and didn't do a very good job of it! Please don't kill me! The reason i have such a dislike for him is because of my friends who have been going on and on at me since last january at how i should like him...and i'm sick of it!

Anyway...JOIN THE SONG FOR TEN CAMPAIGN! AS A FINAL ACT OF LOVE FOR THE TENTH DOCTOR!!

BUY IT OFF ITUNES AND MANY OTHER PLACES...

Visit the comunity for more info...

Laura much love for the doc...i jsut had to be honest :( xxxx

on 2010-01-02 12:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I like comments, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't spam my journal. Thanks.

(frozen)

on 2010-01-02 12:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] songfortenftw.livejournal.com
its not spam...it's ten love...i've heard about uptight doctor who fans...

on 2010-01-02 01:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maryavatar.livejournal.com
Does anyone know who the actress playing the mystery woman was? She looks a lot like Carole Ann Ford, who played The Doctor's Granddaughter.

on 2010-01-02 01:52 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
YES. I thought that while I was watching it! But I don't think it was her - I don't remember seing her name in the credits.

Though, it'd be pretty awesome if that was Susan.

on 2010-01-02 02:00 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maryavatar.livejournal.com
I just went and checked on IMDB, and it isn't. Damn.

on 2010-01-02 06:02 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] eruvadhril.livejournal.com
The bar, which looked like Milliways

OMG YES. Official canon now!

on 2010-01-03 04:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*g* Well, Ten met Arthur Dent at some point...

on 2010-01-02 06:04 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sophiahagia.livejournal.com
I pretty much agree with everything you said here. The whole Timelords and Master storyline, meh, didn't care so much. But I loved Wilf and the whole last bit where he visited everyone. (I, too, thought the Rose bit was going to be stupid, but thank god it wasn't.)

Re: Matt Smith, my sister says he has a big nose. "The other Doctor had a nice nose! I liked him! He was cute! Why did they make him explode and put this big-nosed guy on?"

on 2010-01-03 04:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*cracks up* Your sister says nothing but truth. :P

on 2010-01-02 12:15 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] tau_sigma
Wilf! I love Wilf, and was so utterly creeped out by his knocking. Oh, Wilf.

Wasn't 'the Woman' the crying Time Lady, behind Rassilon? Which to me would suggest she couldn't be the Watcher, because I didn't think of the Watcher as being a Time Lord in his own right, just some sort of ... I don't know, artefact of imminent regeneration. Then again, that is entirely my take on it, I guess; I don't think I got that from any reliable source.

I want her to be Romana. It would kind of tie up too neatly, perhaps, but I'd like that. The way the Doctor looked at her, too... he loved her, I think, whoever she was. (Or, I guess, if it was the Watcher, it was a look of 'I'm going to die' sadness. I don't know.)

Oh, Ten. I didn't want him to go either. *sigh*

on 2010-01-05 04:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
That was her, yes! So perhaps you're right re: Watcher... I'm still intriuged, though. A lot of people are saying she might have been the Doctor's mother! (Which I quite like the thought of; I mean, he must have had one.)

on 2010-01-02 12:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anotherusedpage.livejournal.com
I think - with my little tiny weeny pieces of insider knowledge which have already been leaked onto the internet by other people anyway - that The Woman has something to do with the Weeping Angels. Because of the pose, and the fact that they were mentioned in this episode, and because of my tiny weeny bit of insider knowledge.

on 2010-01-02 01:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anotherusedpage.livejournal.com
Also! Yes to everything you said. Enjoyed the episode quite a lot, although it didn't do what I was expecting from the bits I'd already seen. LOVED the startrek reference. And Milliways! I had not had that thought but now I have and yey!

on 2010-01-05 04:42 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*grins* I don't know your little bit of insider knowledge, and I don't want to... I'm just pleasantly intrigued by the thought of the Woman being something to do with the weeping angels.

on 2010-01-03 10:02 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
I loved the salvage aliens. And Wilf, of course.

I just wish Martha and Mickey could have teamed up without being paired off, and maybe done some doctoring and hacking respectively.

on 2010-01-05 04:42 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I entirely agree! I love them both; there was no need to pair them off.

on 2010-01-08 05:59 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] fyrdrakken
I went into it expecting it to be a mess and thus to be pleasantly surprised by any bits that were at all good. I kind of liked seeing Time Lords being the baddies, as well as the Master again (although a bit too much of the latter), but that two-parter had an awful lot of filler. The lottery ticket was done in that episode where Ten and Rose ran into Sarah Jane -- a lottery ticket was slipped under a teacher's door in the night to get them to abruptly quit their job and create an opening for Ten to fill. Not liking that Martha and Mickey were randomly stuck together in between seasons and never mind her having been engaged/married to Tom Milligan.

I wasn't looking forward to Eleven all that enthusiastically, but after the death march of the last few specials with Ten, I've gotten very burned out on RTD, and then that final minute with Eleven totally won me over. I'm eager for the next season, now, and I wasn't expecting to be.

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