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I am reading a case called Royal Bank of Scotland v Etridge (2001). It's quite a well-known case, and a fairly interesting one. It goes like this. Say you are married, or civil-partnered, and you live with your partner in a house that you both own. Say you then decide to start a business, and need a loan for the purpose. The bank wants security for the loan, so you offer up the only thing you have - your house. The bank agrees, Land Registry enters the restriction on your title to your property, you get the money.

Then the inevitable happens. The business fails and you default on the loan. In order to get back the money, the bank exercises its power of sale. And you're thrown out of your home - but so is your partner, through no fault of theirs, and they may not even have known that all this was going on, considering all that was required from them was one signature, possibly years before.

The House of Lords was keen to stop this happening, and in this case it set out guidelines for what a lender must do when making a loan of this type. Nothing dramatic - it must satisfy itself that practical implications of the transaction have been set out in a "meaningful way" to the other partner before it proceeds with the loan.

So far, so hoopy. In some ways this is just the sort of common law that appeals to me; there's a problem, the court takes a simple logical action, it fixes it. Very neat, very sensible.

But here's the issue. The wording of the judgement is as follows:

"It is important that a wife (or anyone in a like position) should not charge her interest in the matrimonial home to secure the borrowing of her husband (or anyone in a like position) without fully understanding the nature and effect of the proposed transaction and that the decision is hers, to agree or not to agree."

And later:

"It is important that lenders should feel able to advance money... on the security of the wife's interest in the matrimonial home..."

The textbook, published in 2009, I should add, writes:

"The lender is entitled to proceed on the basis that the solicitor advising the wife has done so properly."

And:

"[If going ahead with the transaction] the solicitor should explain to the wife the purpose for which he (the solicitor) has become involved..."

There's layers and layers of issues below this - at one level it's about undue influence, which suggests it's a tool to stop women being taken advantage of, and at another level it's about introducing transparency.

But the judgement is on the most obvious level, about husbands and wives. It's about how a husband takes out a loan, and doesn't tell his wife; it's about how a wife must have it explained. There's a clear, clear assumption that it will be a man who takes out a business loan, not a woman, and that it will be the wife who needs the situation explaining. The judgement was made in 2001, note: it wasn't Lord Denning in the 1970s getting paternalistic on us, it was made less than ten years ago. It's not a profound point that I'm leading up to here, but nevertheless I want to make it: the sheer and obvious sexism in it is what gets me down. It's not that you have to analyse it carefully to see that it's there, it's just there, waving a little patriarchy flag and wearing a shiny hat.

It was made before the Civil Partnership Act, of course - but that is retroactively implied into it, so there's one blessing, but hmph. Hmph.

on 2009-12-30 05:25 pm (UTC)
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The judgement was made in 2001

*jaw drops* I was figuring 1950 at the latest from the wording.

on 2009-12-31 01:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*groans* It's awful, isn't it? Most of the time I don't mind that the syntax and lexis is the same as it was in the 1950s, but the attitudes, really.

on 2009-12-30 08:09 pm (UTC)
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That is utterly sickening. I can't believe they are still writing like that in this decade.

(Semi-relatedly, today, I carried a large heavy box. 'Oh, would you like a hand with that?' exclaims Man, hurrying over, and takes the box off me. I am unsure whether to cry sexism from this, or simply conclude that people are generally a bit fail, but it annoyed me A LOT. I appreciate the offer of help; I don't appreciate being treated like an incapable person because of my gender or height. I was doing perfectly fine on my own. Hmph.)

And, you know, law is so interesting! I'm sure you do know that, I imagine that had some degree of influence in you choosing it. ;) But, yes, it is so interesting. I don't think I could study it, but I really enjoy the odd post about it that you make. *g*

on 2009-12-30 08:49 pm (UTC)
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Charming.

Remind me why I have heard of Lord Denning being paternalistic?

on 2009-12-31 01:24 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
It's actually pretty technical - it's to do with constructive family-home trusts, which are basically what happens with a relationship breaks down and there's a dispute over who owns what afterwards. If you and I got civil-partnered and lived in a house that you legally owned, but I had paid random mortgage payments here and there and had done all the decorating, how much would I get on sale - that sort of thing. Denning was very keen to get more equity in this process of deciding the beneficial shares in constructive trust, but he had this awful species of discourse - very much "and what did the little woman do at home?", even if the woman in question had actually redone the place with a sledgehammer. Ask me this again when I have my books around me, and I may be able to be less vague. :)

(Of course, his career spanned fifty years and he was probably paternalistic - thought not as much as some - in other ways, but this is what comes to mind.)

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