Star Trek (reboot!)
May. 13th, 2009 10:21 pmOh, oh, Star Trek. Oh. I went to see it with
emerald_embers, and I think we have the same opinion on it, which is.... wow. Just, wow. That was... oh, beautiful, and funny, and smart, and utterly silly and in-your-face and flawed, but in the right ways. Where to start? The look. The jagged, high-coloured aesthetic with all the mad lens-flaring, which could be bad, and I suppose objectively is rather silly, but I like it. I especially like how it's shiny and the surfaces look hard, so when people smash into things it looks like it would hurt, and everything is so bright and ecstatic but the noises - the beeps and whistles of the computers, and so on - are taken straight from the original series.
But mostly I love it because of the characters. Kirk is... okay, he's all right, he grew on me. But I started making noises of squee at Uhura - Uhura, and her roommate! who is an alien! Because they finally had the budget to put aliens in every shot, because this is Starfleet! this is getting to be a long parenthesis! - who is just, made of awesome, and then when McCoy appears I made small cheering noises. Yay, yay, they did not make them all the same age, they remembered that McCoy is the oldest, and gave him the ex-wife he had in TOS, and he's so... him. Snarky, and smart, and I kind of heart him as much as ever; I wasn't expecting to like Karl Urban, but he really did make McCoy-as-was awesome. I like how his role is mostly to yell at Kirk, which is how things ought to be, and be rude to Spock, as things also ought to be, and generally be competent and awesome. Apart from the bit where he's injecting Kirk every which way, which I thought Kirk sort of needed by that point. But the dialogue is marvellous - self-consciously silly, and I love how they're finally unafraid to go for the humour. (Sometimes one feels Starfleet cadets have their sense of humour surgically removed, in the original series and TNG.) And I guess I wouldn't like it so much if it didn't rise organically from these characters being Kirk, Spock and McCoy - it's how they are.
Look, I got to my third paragraph without mentioning Spock! And... Spock. Oh, Spock. McCoy is my favourite of the TOS characters - but Spock was just... wow. Zachary Quinto, please may I have your babies. He's... right. He's just right. There's nothing more to be said about him, except that he is Spock, yes, that's exactly how Spock was at that age. And I'd heard about the Spock and Uhura thing, and I was expecting to hate it, and may I just say, I was wrong. I was totally wrong. That scene where they're in the stopped turbolift, and he's utterly still, and she's kissing him and there's this beautiful visual where her nails are shiny painted black against his skin - that ought to have been stupid and pasted-on-yay, but it was delicate and romantic and I loved it.
Hmm, what else? Simon Pegg! Scotty and his mysterious green friend! How awesome were they? And Leonard Nimoy! I loved him, and love how young!Spock mistakes him for Sarek at the end, because, well, I did too, throughout.
Basically, I think about the only gripe I had with the movie was the weird, gratuitious red lamprey thing that chases Kirk across weird gratutious ice planet, and Kirk's way of getting there is really, really pasted-on-yay - what, of all the places in the universe, Kirk happens to get dropped on the particular point on the particular planet where he's going to meet Spock? And I appreciate the point of the reboot, and the interesting way they spun that in the in-universe context - history changing, and all of that - but I do wish they hadn't killed off Amanda. Every scene in the original series, and in The Voyage Home, with her and Spock together is beautifully done, so... yeah. But we got Sarek, and we got Leonard Nimoy, so I will stop complaining.
In short: I think it was silly, I think it was over-the-top, I think the plot was probably superfluous... but it was full of love for the characters and their world, and really, you couldn't ask for more than that.
I am sure I will babble more when I think of more. Darlings, where are the fic and the icons?
But mostly I love it because of the characters. Kirk is... okay, he's all right, he grew on me. But I started making noises of squee at Uhura - Uhura, and her roommate! who is an alien! Because they finally had the budget to put aliens in every shot, because this is Starfleet! this is getting to be a long parenthesis! - who is just, made of awesome, and then when McCoy appears I made small cheering noises. Yay, yay, they did not make them all the same age, they remembered that McCoy is the oldest, and gave him the ex-wife he had in TOS, and he's so... him. Snarky, and smart, and I kind of heart him as much as ever; I wasn't expecting to like Karl Urban, but he really did make McCoy-as-was awesome. I like how his role is mostly to yell at Kirk, which is how things ought to be, and be rude to Spock, as things also ought to be, and generally be competent and awesome. Apart from the bit where he's injecting Kirk every which way, which I thought Kirk sort of needed by that point. But the dialogue is marvellous - self-consciously silly, and I love how they're finally unafraid to go for the humour. (Sometimes one feels Starfleet cadets have their sense of humour surgically removed, in the original series and TNG.) And I guess I wouldn't like it so much if it didn't rise organically from these characters being Kirk, Spock and McCoy - it's how they are.
Look, I got to my third paragraph without mentioning Spock! And... Spock. Oh, Spock. McCoy is my favourite of the TOS characters - but Spock was just... wow. Zachary Quinto, please may I have your babies. He's... right. He's just right. There's nothing more to be said about him, except that he is Spock, yes, that's exactly how Spock was at that age. And I'd heard about the Spock and Uhura thing, and I was expecting to hate it, and may I just say, I was wrong. I was totally wrong. That scene where they're in the stopped turbolift, and he's utterly still, and she's kissing him and there's this beautiful visual where her nails are shiny painted black against his skin - that ought to have been stupid and pasted-on-yay, but it was delicate and romantic and I loved it.
Hmm, what else? Simon Pegg! Scotty and his mysterious green friend! How awesome were they? And Leonard Nimoy! I loved him, and love how young!Spock mistakes him for Sarek at the end, because, well, I did too, throughout.
Basically, I think about the only gripe I had with the movie was the weird, gratuitious red lamprey thing that chases Kirk across weird gratutious ice planet, and Kirk's way of getting there is really, really pasted-on-yay - what, of all the places in the universe, Kirk happens to get dropped on the particular point on the particular planet where he's going to meet Spock? And I appreciate the point of the reboot, and the interesting way they spun that in the in-universe context - history changing, and all of that - but I do wish they hadn't killed off Amanda. Every scene in the original series, and in The Voyage Home, with her and Spock together is beautifully done, so... yeah. But we got Sarek, and we got Leonard Nimoy, so I will stop complaining.
In short: I think it was silly, I think it was over-the-top, I think the plot was probably superfluous... but it was full of love for the characters and their world, and really, you couldn't ask for more than that.
I am sure I will babble more when I think of more. Darlings, where are the fic and the icons?
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on 2009-05-13 10:17 pm (UTC)Yes, the action set piece on
HothDelta Vega was so totally idiotic. And I actually through the comedy allergic reactions was overdone. But BONES! UHURA! SAREK! SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!I am still on a high.
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on 2009-05-13 10:29 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-05-14 05:44 am (UTC)I want to know more about Scotty's mysterious friend.
I'm watching
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on 2009-05-13 10:18 pm (UTC)That scene where they're in the stopped turbolift, and he's utterly still, and she's kissing him and there's this beautiful visual where her nails are shiny painted black against his skin - that ought to have been stupid and pasted-on-yay, but it was delicate and romantic and I loved it.
YYYYYYYYYYYYY. It was delicate and tender and gentle and totally the opposite of Kirk and the Orion girl and just intellectual and hot in an intellectual soft tender supportive understanding way and asdfghjkjgfdgsaDFG. YES, LOVED IT.
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on 2009-05-13 10:35 pm (UTC)Yes, Spock was brilliant, and Uhura was awesome. And together they were just lovely.
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on 2009-05-13 10:55 pm (UTC)I'm guessing Spock sent him to
Hoththe ice planet because it was the nearest one, and Nero sent Spock Prime there for the same reason. It worked for me, but the second monster was a little much.I love that so many people on my flist love McCoy the best. That is as it should be.
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on 2009-05-15 01:47 am (UTC)McCoy is love. I don't know why I love him so much, but I really do, and he's the only one of them I can really write fic about.
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on 2009-05-20 12:49 am (UTC)*coughs* I was very happy reading your gen fic, by the way. For all of it, not just the section with McCoy. Though that part was my favorite. What can I say? I'm a fangirl at heart.
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on 2009-05-13 10:57 pm (UTC)I'm so glad you loved it too.
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on 2009-05-14 08:16 am (UTC)Wheee...
Ice planet/moon scene
on 2009-05-14 08:22 am (UTC)http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1611247/20090512/story.jhtml
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Re: Ice planet/moon scene
on 2009-05-15 01:51 am (UTC)(Thank you for comms!)
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on 2009-05-14 09:20 am (UTC)And Scotty and little green man going 'Do you see any other half starved Starfleet officers?' 'Me.' 'No you're not, you eat, like a bean!'
An Uhura could never not be awesome, but I love they made a thing out of her not telling Kirk her first name. Just because she could.
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on 2009-05-14 01:33 pm (UTC)I thought McCoy was very nearly perfect, and Spock was amazing... in fact, all of the main characters really worked for me. Kirk seemed a little "off" to me, at first, but by the end of the film, he had become the character I had known (or, perhaps, I'd grown used to him).
I was also fully prepared to hate the Spock/Uhura thing, but I was surprised by how well it worked. I particularly liked the fact that Uhura was portrayed as a full character, rather than just "the girl" (especially since some of the trailers implied that there was a Kirk/Uhura relationship too, which thankfully there wasn't).
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on 2009-05-16 04:54 pm (UTC)I have no intelligent commentary about the film yet. When people ask me about it I sort of flap my hands around a bit and squeak. I'm told it's adorable.
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on 2009-05-17 03:51 pm (UTC)I have finally got my act together, and I'll be taking part in Clements, the shows put on during May Week. Eek! Will let you know how it goes.
And thank you *lots* for prodding me; it will probably be very good for me...
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on 2009-05-18 10:50 am (UTC)It was the first time in a long time that I've come out of a movie without.... feeling tricked into liking it. Like, normally I'd be coming out and thinking, that was fun and all, but now I've not got the emotional music playing and the adrenalin pumping, I kinda wish I hadn't enjoyed it so much. Whereas with this, I just wanted to see it again! And I was so glad the reboot was a proper reboot, and they can play in a new sandbox, but with those characters!
Kirk/Spock! Kirk/Bones! Bones/Spock! Spock/Uhura! Complete lack of Kirk/Uhura! Best day ever! Ohgod it's been a while. And only tiny, tiny, tiny moments of Chekhov/Sulu which was always my favourite, and the potential for so much more. I want new series, new movies, MORE of it.
And I didn't mind the Ice Planet stuff, cos it was the nearest planet which was why both Kirk and Spock Prime got stranded there. (One of my favourite moments in the whole movie was Kirk stumbling away from the mind-meld...) My Big Geek Gripe was the minor change to how Kirk cheated the Kubayashi Maru test :D
Yeah. Love.
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on 2009-05-18 02:21 pm (UTC)(And yes, yes, YES to all the rest of this! Oh, Kirk and Spock and Bones! And lovely lovely Chekhov! It was so wonderful.)
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on 2009-05-18 03:46 pm (UTC)(Kubayashi Maru is one of my favouritist novelisations of them all! Which is probably why I care so much. It has Checkhov/Sulu hurt/comfort glee; and exploration of how Sulu and Checkhov's cultural backgrounds affected their time at the acadamy; and in his version, Chekhov is all teenaged-hero-worshipy of Kirk, and just generally guh.)