raven: TOS McCoy and Kirk frowning, text: "Well that's just maddeningly unhelpful" (st - MADDENINGLY UNHELPFUL)
[personal profile] raven
Oh, oh, Star Trek. Oh. I went to see it with [livejournal.com profile] emerald_embers, and I think we have the same opinion on it, which is.... wow. Just, wow. That was... oh, beautiful, and funny, and smart, and utterly silly and in-your-face and flawed, but in the right ways. Where to start? The look. The jagged, high-coloured aesthetic with all the mad lens-flaring, which could be bad, and I suppose objectively is rather silly, but I like it. I especially like how it's shiny and the surfaces look hard, so when people smash into things it looks like it would hurt, and everything is so bright and ecstatic but the noises - the beeps and whistles of the computers, and so on - are taken straight from the original series.

But mostly I love it because of the characters. Kirk is... okay, he's all right, he grew on me. But I started making noises of squee at Uhura - Uhura, and her roommate! who is an alien! Because they finally had the budget to put aliens in every shot, because this is Starfleet! this is getting to be a long parenthesis! - who is just, made of awesome, and then when McCoy appears I made small cheering noises. Yay, yay, they did not make them all the same age, they remembered that McCoy is the oldest, and gave him the ex-wife he had in TOS, and he's so... him. Snarky, and smart, and I kind of heart him as much as ever; I wasn't expecting to like Karl Urban, but he really did make McCoy-as-was awesome. I like how his role is mostly to yell at Kirk, which is how things ought to be, and be rude to Spock, as things also ought to be, and generally be competent and awesome. Apart from the bit where he's injecting Kirk every which way, which I thought Kirk sort of needed by that point. But the dialogue is marvellous - self-consciously silly, and I love how they're finally unafraid to go for the humour. (Sometimes one feels Starfleet cadets have their sense of humour surgically removed, in the original series and TNG.) And I guess I wouldn't like it so much if it didn't rise organically from these characters being Kirk, Spock and McCoy - it's how they are.

Look, I got to my third paragraph without mentioning Spock! And... Spock. Oh, Spock. McCoy is my favourite of the TOS characters - but Spock was just... wow. Zachary Quinto, please may I have your babies. He's... right. He's just right. There's nothing more to be said about him, except that he is Spock, yes, that's exactly how Spock was at that age. And I'd heard about the Spock and Uhura thing, and I was expecting to hate it, and may I just say, I was wrong. I was totally wrong. That scene where they're in the stopped turbolift, and he's utterly still, and she's kissing him and there's this beautiful visual where her nails are shiny painted black against his skin - that ought to have been stupid and pasted-on-yay, but it was delicate and romantic and I loved it.

Hmm, what else? Simon Pegg! Scotty and his mysterious green friend! How awesome were they? And Leonard Nimoy! I loved him, and love how young!Spock mistakes him for Sarek at the end, because, well, I did too, throughout.

Basically, I think about the only gripe I had with the movie was the weird, gratuitious red lamprey thing that chases Kirk across weird gratutious ice planet, and Kirk's way of getting there is really, really pasted-on-yay - what, of all the places in the universe, Kirk happens to get dropped on the particular point on the particular planet where he's going to meet Spock? And I appreciate the point of the reboot, and the interesting way they spun that in the in-universe context - history changing, and all of that - but I do wish they hadn't killed off Amanda. Every scene in the original series, and in The Voyage Home, with her and Spock together is beautifully done, so... yeah. But we got Sarek, and we got Leonard Nimoy, so I will stop complaining.

In short: I think it was silly, I think it was over-the-top, I think the plot was probably superfluous... but it was full of love for the characters and their world, and really, you couldn't ask for more than that.

I am sure I will babble more when I think of more. Darlings, where are the fic and the icons?

on 2009-05-13 10:05 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] proskynesis
There's a kink meme. *nods*

[livejournal.com profile] st_reboot for icons? Or possibly [livejournal.com profile] startrek2009? idk.

on 2009-05-13 10:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Thank you! <3

on 2009-05-13 10:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
HUGS YOU,.

Yes, the action set piece on Hoth Delta Vega was so totally idiotic. And I actually through the comedy allergic reactions was overdone. But BONES! UHURA! SAREK! SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still on a high.

on 2009-05-13 10:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
ljflgdlfgdlfg yeah. I really, really want to see it again. I never do that with movies, but... omg. SPOCK. I love him.

on 2009-05-14 05:44 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] amchau.livejournal.com
It was totally Hoth. As soon as I saw Kirk land there, I was like... so he loses his arm and gets rescued by Han?

I want to know more about Scotty's mysterious friend.

I'm watching [livejournal.com profile] startrekfic and [livejournal.com profile] spockuhura for fic.

on 2009-05-13 10:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [personal profile] stained_glass
YAY! *cheers and dances*

That scene where they're in the stopped turbolift, and he's utterly still, and she's kissing him and there's this beautiful visual where her nails are shiny painted black against his skin - that ought to have been stupid and pasted-on-yay, but it was delicate and romantic and I loved it.

YYYYYYYYYYYYY. It was delicate and tender and gentle and totally the opposite of Kirk and the Orion girl and just intellectual and hot in an intellectual soft tender supportive understanding way and asdfghjkjgfdgsaDFG. YES, LOVED IT.

on 2009-05-13 10:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
OMG OMG YES. It was... just, oh. And they're already together, from the start, and that makes it so... oh, just. I don't have the words for it.

on 2009-05-13 10:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [personal profile] stained_glass
YES! What? A long-term, supportive, equal, respectful relationship? In TOS? HOW STRANGE BUT WONDERFUL. XD And yes, together from the start, so it wasn't "Oh there's sexual tension that's been released by a dangerous situation let's fall into bed together!"

Yes, Spock was brilliant, and Uhura was awesome. And together they were just lovely.

on 2009-05-13 10:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
YES THAT. And they're still together at the end! And Kirk doesn't get the girl! My love, it has no bounds.

on 2009-05-13 10:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [personal profile] stained_glass
It's even better than that - Uhura's not a girl to be 'got'! She's a capable, confident, intelligent woman who chooses to enter a difficult relationship because she loves someone.

<33333333333333333333

on 2009-05-13 10:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Yes! Oh, so much yes! Oh, Uhura. She tells Kirk to piss off and he stays pissed off.

on 2009-05-14 12:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] skywaterblue.livejournal.com
This this this. OMG.

on 2009-05-13 10:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] soupytwist.livejournal.com
SERIOUSLY MY LOVE IT IS IMMENSE. It was all shiny! and awesome! And yes, ridiculous, but in the GOOD ways and with LOVE and MCCOY AND SPOCK AND UHURA AND OMG OMG.

on 2009-05-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
MY LOVE IT IS ALSO IMMENSE. I wasn't expecting to love it quite so much, but... omg.

on 2009-05-13 10:55 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] thistlerose.livejournal.com
I'd been nervous about the Spock/Uhura too, but IMO it totally worked. It was delicate and lovely, and it didn't feel tacked on.

I'm guessing Spock sent him to Hoth the ice planet because it was the nearest one, and Nero sent Spock Prime there for the same reason. It worked for me, but the second monster was a little much.

I love that so many people on my flist love McCoy the best. That is as it should be.

on 2009-05-15 01:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
It was... god, I don't know how to put it. It reminded me of Willow and Tara in the episode where Joyce dies - it has that same, relationship-as-part-of-life quality.

McCoy is love. I don't know why I love him so much, but I really do, and he's the only one of them I can really write fic about.

on 2009-05-20 12:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] muchabstracted.livejournal.com
*quietly lurks for as much fic as possible with good McCoy in it*

*coughs* I was very happy reading your gen fic, by the way. For all of it, not just the section with McCoy. Though that part was my favorite. What can I say? I'm a fangirl at heart.

on 2009-05-20 12:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*grins* Thank you very much! There are two (http://loneraven.livejournal.com/596659.html) others (http://loneraven.livejournal.com/574361.html), much older.

on 2009-05-20 12:58 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] muchabstracted.livejournal.com
Oooh. *bookmarks for bedtime reading*

on 2009-05-13 10:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] troyswann.livejournal.com
The camera loves Zachary Quinto. Some of the most beautiful shots of the film are framed around him or the Enterprise. And I am totally sold by Spock/Uhura. And it was silly (killer space prawn!) and beautiful.

I'm so glad you loved it too.

on 2009-05-15 01:50 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
isjsgf I loved it SO MUCH. And oh, Spock is beautiful in this, he is.

on 2009-05-14 08:12 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] vampire-kitten.livejournal.com
If you see it again, watch out for the tribble behind scotty in his first scene...

on 2009-05-15 01:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
ahahaha AWESOME.

on 2009-05-14 08:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tmpe5t.livejournal.com
Ooh yeah fic, cos spock has grranger issues and so the kirk/spock is going to have an edge. And ooh, uhura/green orion girl...

Wheee...

Ice planet/moon scene

on 2009-05-14 08:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] janne.livejournal.com
I thought the ice planet scene and OldSpock/Kirk/Scotty being in the same place was a bit much at first, but in hindsight I'm perfectly happy to accept the writers explanation for it -- it wasn't coincidence, it was the Timeline trying to heal itself.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1611247/20090512/story.jhtml

Various communities for icons and fic:
trekicons
trekfics
trekkies
icons4trekkies

Re: Ice planet/moon scene

on 2009-05-15 01:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
That makes sense, yes. And I'm sure TOS has done equally egregious things in its time!

(Thank you for comms!)

on 2009-05-14 09:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
I'm slightly terrified of how much Urban must have been watching TOS, because he just had McCoy down.

And Scotty and little green man going 'Do you see any other half starved Starfleet officers?' 'Me.' 'No you're not, you eat, like a bean!'

An Uhura could never not be awesome, but I love they made a thing out of her not telling Kirk her first name. Just because she could.

on 2009-05-15 01:52 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
He did, didn't he? That slightly crazed look was just right. And, and, Uhura, and little green man were just win. Particularly Uhura. But also little green man.

on 2009-05-15 06:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
I am madly in love with them all in a way I haven't been since I as about 13. Its great.

on 2009-05-14 01:33 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] cscottd.livejournal.com
The plot was a bit silly, but I didn't care. The "Hoth" scene with the weird "Cloverfield" monster was ludicrous, but I didn't care. The characters were so fantastic, and so well played, and everything looked so cool and felt so "Star Trek", I was (and am) perfectly happy to overlook the rest.

I thought McCoy was very nearly perfect, and Spock was amazing... in fact, all of the main characters really worked for me. Kirk seemed a little "off" to me, at first, but by the end of the film, he had become the character I had known (or, perhaps, I'd grown used to him).

I was also fully prepared to hate the Spock/Uhura thing, but I was surprised by how well it worked. I particularly liked the fact that Uhura was portrayed as a full character, rather than just "the girl" (especially since some of the trailers implied that there was a Kirk/Uhura relationship too, which thankfully there wasn't).

on 2009-05-15 01:53 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Oh, I was glad about that too. I'm so glad Uhura was someone real, and not just there for Kirk to snog. She was so awesome, and she deserved better than that. I'm glad they gave it to her.

on 2009-05-16 04:54 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
I am SO glad you liked it! I hereby state that we have to see it together at some point. We can press pause on a DVD so Kirk talks! like! this!

I have no intelligent commentary about the film yet. When people ask me about it I sort of flap my hands around a bit and squeak. I'm told it's adorable.

on 2009-05-18 02:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Yes! We can! And we can make noises of ENORMOUS SQUEE whenever the Enterprise appears, and we can coo over baby Chekhov!

on 2009-05-17 03:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lizzip.livejournal.com
Utterly, utterly unrelated, but just so you know -- back in January you told me to fall in with CULES.

I have finally got my act together, and I'll be taking part in Clements, the shows put on during May Week. Eek! Will let you know how it goes.

And thank you *lots* for prodding me; it will probably be very good for me...

on 2009-05-18 02:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Oh, you're very welcome! I'm so pleased that you're enjoying it! Hurrah!

on 2009-05-18 10:50 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anotherusedpage.livejournal.com
So! Late to the party, but here....

It was the first time in a long time that I've come out of a movie without.... feeling tricked into liking it. Like, normally I'd be coming out and thinking, that was fun and all, but now I've not got the emotional music playing and the adrenalin pumping, I kinda wish I hadn't enjoyed it so much. Whereas with this, I just wanted to see it again! And I was so glad the reboot was a proper reboot, and they can play in a new sandbox, but with those characters!

Kirk/Spock! Kirk/Bones! Bones/Spock! Spock/Uhura! Complete lack of Kirk/Uhura! Best day ever! Ohgod it's been a while. And only tiny, tiny, tiny moments of Chekhov/Sulu which was always my favourite, and the potential for so much more. I want new series, new movies, MORE of it.

And I didn't mind the Ice Planet stuff, cos it was the nearest planet which was why both Kirk and Spock Prime got stranded there. (One of my favourite moments in the whole movie was Kirk stumbling away from the mind-meld...) My Big Geek Gripe was the minor change to how Kirk cheated the Kubayashi Maru test :D

Yeah. Love.

on 2009-05-18 02:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
How did they change Kirk's cheating? I thought that was what he did - he rigged it...

(And yes, yes, YES to all the rest of this! Oh, Kirk and Spock and Bones! And lovely lovely Chekhov! It was so wonderful.)

on 2009-05-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anotherusedpage.livejournal.com
He always rigged it, yes. In the version I know best, which I think comes from one of the novelisations rather than series canon, although I think it gets mentioned in series canon as well - he hacks the computer and rigs it to let him win without having to kill a single Klingon. He rigs it so that they recognise him. So makes it so that when he hails the Klingon ship, and gets the comander on screen and introduces himself, the Klingon comander goes, "what, the Captain James T. Kirk? I've heard all about you..." and won't attack because of awe/respect, and in fact helps him complete the rescue mission.

(Kubayashi Maru is one of my favouritist novelisations of them all! Which is probably why I care so much. It has Checkhov/Sulu hurt/comfort glee; and exploration of how Sulu and Checkhov's cultural backgrounds affected their time at the acadamy; and in his version, Chekhov is all teenaged-hero-worshipy of Kirk, and just generally guh.)

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