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This review is going to be a little confused - okay, a lot confused - because I watched it squished with about twenty other people and their toffee popcorn into a very small room lavishly decorated with [livejournal.com profile] withiel's blood. I guess that's what happens when you leave home.

This one was immeasurably better than last week's. There were things to like about New Earth, and I discussed them at length, but overall it was mixed. This one was better, but I do think we need to move off RTD's episodes before we get one with any sort of coherent plot. Actually, I'd quite like to watch this one again and pay more attention to it - squished into a room with twenty people is the not the best place for in-depth analysis - and in the meantime I may have missed the fine details. Anyway, things of note:

-the beginning was deliciously crack-addled. The slow-mo monks were, um, bizarre. Someone - lots of people - expressed a desire to hear someone say "This is BBC One!" They were exactly like the people on the BBC announcing screens, or whatever is the technical term for them. Possibly the same people. Also, how do you advertise for actors to fill roles that involve having a natural resemblance to a cadaver?

-David Tennant is still beauty incarnate. Him in the TARDIS shrieking about Ian Drury was so camp and so attractive. And when he steps out and he's Scottish - I love him. I really do. Sigh.

-the Doctor introduces himself as "Doctor McCrimmon." EEEEEE. He also says he studied under "Doctor Bell" - would that be the Bell Sherlock Holmes was based on, I wonder?

-The cracks about Rose's "nakedness" amused me greatly. I think last season, they would have written Rose getting offended; she seems to find this sort of thing amusing, now.

-Actually, Rose and the Doctor now have a relationship that doesn't bug me in the way that Rose and Nine bugged me. There's something cleaner, sweeter, less fundamentally creepy about it. I loved him checking with her, "Am I being rude again?" So sweet.

-the ghost story, or the werewolf story, rather. That's a good ghost story - one child in a generation gets taken as a new host. Eee, creepy.

-the werewolf. The werewolf was perfect. If it hadn't been for the PoA werewolf I wouldn't have appreciated it as much, but while it did have something of the Mexican hairless quality about it, it had a furry muzzle and big pointed ears and a proper howling-at-the-moon stance. But I found it scary when it was human. (Or alien, of course.) Its black eyes were a very simple effect, but against the white, in the dimness, they were creepy. And the low, soft, Scottish voice was all the more creepy for how normal it was, ostensibly.

-the Doctor, as [livejournal.com profile] chains_of_irony said, is a pervy werewolf fancier. He is. He is! His first response to the werewolf is how beautiful it is. I now desperately want Doctor/Remus slash. I also would love a decent icon of the shot of the door with the Doctor on one side and the wolf on the other.

-the mistletoe. Is that part of the werewolf mythos, or did they make it up? I'm suspecting the latter, as I'm sure there would be mistletoe fic about Remus otherwise. Anyway, I liked it as a detail, especially with it worked into the doors, but I think the bits with the maids and the mistletoe soup were mostly padding. I may be wrong.

-the Doctor licked the wall. LOVE.

-the sweet, sweet relationship between the couple - Robert? (I didn't have my subtitles on, woe is me) and Isobel. There were bets being laid as to which one would die and when. Awww.

-the trap was cleverly executed. I like how it all came together, for a given value of together, and I was impressed that they didn't just blow the werewolf out of existence. It says (I think): "Make it brighter", sadly, and still with a Scottish accent, and there's an example of a really clever, subtle special effect when the shape of the wolf becomes the shape of an alien in the light. Also, was it just me, or was there a curious religious undertone to that? The position of the wolf, and alien, is of someone being crucified in a burst of light. It may be just me.

-I am a little disturbed by the way Queen Victoria deals with the Doctor and Rose. How much of her little speech is from their naturally more liberal, carefree outlook, and how much from the Doctor's hubris? We shall see. If this season is going the way I think it's going, the Doctor is due a significant fall from grace.

-Queen Victoria was a werewolf. Dear me, that explains a lot. And I'm guessing they removed the Kohinoor from the big prism thing so they could return it to the government of India the thieving bastards. Ahem. Perhaps a rant for another time.

But there were some iffy bits. It never seems to quite cohere in certain places - for example, why does the Doctor suddenly panic about Rose at the end of the werewolf story when he wasn't bothered before? - and the Torchwood reference seems utterly, utterly gratuitious. It would have been much more effective to give us a quick glimpse of the name-plate and leave it at that. But I think subtlety is possibly RTD's big problem.

But the preview for next week is very, very nice. There were vociferous yells of glee at Anthony Head and more at Sarah Jane. I can't wait, myself.

If anyone who knows is reading - where and how are the DocSoc? I haven't heard a word from them all term.

on 2006-04-22 08:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
why does the Doctor suddenly panic about Rose at the end of the werewolf story when he wasn't bothered before?

I'd have to watch it again, but I think it's when he realises what the monk is chanting.

Loved this episode. Especially the Doctor's sheepish admission that he assumed Robert's shiftiness + wife away + bald athletic men around the place just meant Robert was "happy".

on 2006-04-22 08:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
What is the monk chanting? I think I missed that bit.

Oh, yes, yes! The Doctor is a pervy werewolf fancier and a slasher. Heee.

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on 2006-04-22 08:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] eternalwings.livejournal.com
If I get off my ass I may try and make a doctor/wolf icon but my icons do not always go right so uhm yeah I'll try ^^

As usual I had my geeky chat with kay and it consisted of-
I WANT A MISTLETOE WALL.
I WANNA BE THE WALL HE LICKED.
why can't we have a scottish doctor? Oooooh lots of planets have a scotland maybe?
CAPTAIN JACK AND THE DOCTOR MUST BE ENEMIES NOW! HATELOVE FIC HATELOVE FIC!

Yeah we over do capitals....and now im gonna go do an icon.

on 2006-04-23 12:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
We've had a Scottish Doctor before! Seven was vaguely Scottish. But David Tennant's real accent is so, so beautiful that we need more of it.

D'you know, I never thought that about the Doctor and Jack! There must be fic, indeed!

Doctor Bell

on 2006-04-22 08:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] issi-noho.livejournal.com
I think the Doctor Bell mentioned here is intended to be the guy who taught Conan Doyle. Not only did Joseph Bell lecture at the University of Edinburgh (whence the Doctor's doctorate is claimed to have come) during this period, he was also Queen Victoria's personal physician when she was that far north; it's only natural the Doctor'd claim him as mentor in order to gain the Queen's trust.

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on 2006-04-22 11:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com
I'ma drive by commentor too. Joseph bell is indeed very big at ed Uni - i work with a Joseph Bell Centre there - but I actually wonder if it was more Alexander Graham Bell.

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on 2006-04-23 12:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Ah, I see. Thanks for that info; I knew something vaguely about him teaching at Edinburgh, which made me suspect. I do so like their attention to detail.

on 2006-04-22 08:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] forthwritten.livejournal.com
Hope you don't mind a drive-by comment. I've been checking A Lycanthropy Reader: Werewolves in Western Culture for a reference to mistletoe. There doesn't seem to be anything, and a quick google doesn't seem to turn up anything substantial.
The traditions I've heard tend to focus on silver, crosses and holy water. However, mistletoe was used as a protection against the supernatural - not necessarily werewolves, but in general.

on 2006-04-23 12:11 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Of course I don't mind! Thanks for that; I'm endlessly intrigued by werewolf legends as a side-effect of all my years in fandom. I always associated mistletoe with the druids, which I guess is a different thing.

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on 2006-04-22 08:52 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] owl
I am a little disturbed by the way Queen Victoria deals with the Doctor and Rose. How much of her little speech is from their naturally more liberal, carefree outlook, and how much from the Doctor's hubris? We shall see. If this season is going the way I think it's going, the Doctor is due a significant fall from grace.

I think it's more of the hubris theme. I'm getting tired of it already. It's not subtle enough.

There are a lot of religious subtext bits this season.

on 2006-04-23 12:12 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I sound like a broken record, but I'm pretty sure the subtlety thing will improve once RTD stops writing episodes! *gets off soapbox*

There are indeed. I am intruiged.

on 2006-04-22 09:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
DocSoc watched it at Holywell Manor and had a great time. Not a huge turnout, but the usual faithful were there. You should have gotten an e-mail about it, as one was definitely sent out...

on 2006-04-23 12:12 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I didn't get it! Awww. Am I invited for next week? I want to watch Sarah Jane come back with proper old-skool fans... *g*

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on 2006-04-22 09:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] bekkypk.livejournal.com
I think I agree with pretty much everything here. WOW.

Someone - lots of people - expressed a desire to hear someone say "This is BBC One!" They were exactly like the people on the BBC announcing screens, or whatever is the technical term for them.

I actually said it XD
xx

on 2006-04-23 12:13 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Heee. The slow-mo monks were so fab.

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on 2006-04-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] in-purple-skies.livejournal.com
Hee, I thought I was the only one who immediately thought of those BBC adverts when the orange monks started doing their stuff!

on 2006-04-23 12:13 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Oh, no, definitely not. I actually had a moment of confusion where I thought the episode hadn't started and they were about to announce it... *facepalm*

on 2006-04-22 09:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] eternalwings.livejournal.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/eternalwings/720day20moon20sm.jpg
Best I could come up with ^^

on 2006-04-23 12:14 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I love it! Absolutely gorgeous. Thank you!

on 2006-04-22 09:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] chains-of-irony.livejournal.com
Psst- I will hear nothing against RTD's writing style, I think he is a golden god, he deserves his own TARDIS and his own nubile companions because he's made DW accesible again for this generation and I thought that would never happen and I love him to death. Subtlety is obviously too much to ask. XD

He IS a Pervy Werewolf Fancier, isn't he? *g*

on 2006-04-23 12:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Oh, no, no, I have the utmost squee about RTD's reinvention of Doctor Who. He's done wonderful things - made it modern and accessible but still campy and funny and in the tradition of the old show - but it's just little things about his writing that niggle me. They wouldn't so much if we didn't have such wonders as The Doctor Dances to compare him with.

HE IS. He so is. There needs to be Doctor/Remus fic!

on 2006-04-22 11:13 pm (UTC)
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and the Torchwood reference seems utterly, utterly gratuitious

Yes! I totally agree. It bugs me a little, I do wish RTD were more subtle.

Alas, I missed the beginning, and it sounds like there were some good bits I missed. So looking forward to next week. *g*

on 2006-04-22 11:15 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] tau_sigma
Oh, and on that note, he could have left the bit with Victoria being a werewolf? I mean, he hinted, what with her protesting it was just a scratch and the suspicion inherent in that. Personally, I think it could have worked better to leave that without comment, to be wondered on. Then again, it was nice to have the mention of the 'haemophilia'. *shrugs*

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on 2006-04-23 01:46 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] casirafics.livejournal.com
I now desperately want Doctor/Remus slash.

...ohmetoo.

(And the strength of my need has apparently broken my space bar.)

on 2006-04-23 11:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
minetooohgodminetoothereneedstobefic.

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on 2006-04-23 06:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kismeteve.livejournal.com
The Doctor-Joseph Bell link has already been added to the Joseph Bell wiki entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bell). I really love fandom sometimes.

(He really said McCrimmon?! HAHAHA.)

on 2006-04-23 11:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Me too! I love how quickly and scrupulously Wiki is edited with the most nitpickingly specific information. *g*

(He really did! *loves on him*)

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