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Oh my god why is it still fifth week. I am nursing a private theory that the moment it is not fifth week any more, everything will be sweetness and light once more. And to be fair, everything is sweetness and light bar economics and that's a big bar. Pat asked last night why I hate economics so much. I had to think about it for a long, long time. "I hate maths," I said, after a bit; but that's not exactly true. I hate applied maths, ie, economics. I was proud of myself when I learned how to differentiate and integrate, and the derivation of differentiation from first principles is something I took the time to learn as being a beautiful piece of logic in its own right. While I will never be particularly enamoured of maths - and some time ago [livejournal.com profile] clareyperson said, in reply to that, "It's 'cause you treat it like a whore!" - I do see why some people find joy in it. It can be joyful.

Maybe, I went on to say, I hate economics because I don't really care all that much about resource allocation. But, well, that's not true either. Caring about resource allocation is a pretty important part of having political beliefs of most sorts, and I do have those, and find joy in having them too. So it's not that, and I spent quite a long time thinking before my next attempt.

"Maybe it's because I hate Forder."

"That's okay," Pat said, "everyone hates Forder. Which is also okay, because he hates us all right back."

Urgh, Forder. I hate him, and am exemplifying my hatred by not calling him by his first name (it's James) like all my wonderful, wonderful General Philosophy tutors. The reason I hate him is actually quite simple; he's got this crack-addled theory that introductory textbooks are a bad idea. He thinks they are condescending and patronising and that we should all be reading Keynes instead. My point, which I think is legitimate, is that introductory textbooks serve a purpose when you know nothing whatsoever about a subject. Even if Keynes wrote at all lucidly (I complained at Forder on Monday that the man should have been strung up for cruelty to the common comma), I still wouldn't understand a word without a little preparatory reading of the difference-between-fiscal-and-monetary-policy school.

Still. Two tutes tomorrow, one Political Theory and the other Macro, and there's only twenty minutes in between them that I plan to spend crying in a corner. It will be hideous and awful, and followed by an evening of reading Mill, because apparently he chose On Liberty to start getting verbose. I wanted to go out and meet [livejournal.com profile] ou3fs, but I rather think Mill will intervene. In conclusion, fifth-week blues are just hideous (and, hilariously, a comprehensively documented phenomenon), but I'm hoping to ride them out. I want to do something fannish to take my mind off it, but my remix has stalled and I have no energy to do any other writing. The one thing that appeals at present is The Vagina Monologues at Wadham at the end of sixth week. Anyone feel like coming with me, she asks tremulously.

Dinnertime, then Mill. Waaaaah.

on 2006-02-17 12:19 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com
Anyone feel like coming with me, she asks tremulously.
ME ME ME.

Mill's political philosophy may be verbose, but at least it's vaguely consistent and complete. *glares at Utilitarianism*

on 2006-02-17 10:52 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Yay! There shall be much shouting of "cunt!" at the stage!

You know, I'm actually enjoying On Liberty. There's just no comparison to Utilitarianism; you wouldn't think they were by the same author. Also: are you going to the PHoL tonight? Am wondering whether I can justify going with 100 pages of Mill and all the supplementary reading left to go...

on 2006-02-17 09:25 am (UTC)
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*hugs* I would so come if I were actually in Oxford. I'm in the state of oh help is it 5th week already?! It's really rather sad, as I like people up here. And my room. And Durham in general. *sigh*

Not necessarily the work, sometimes though, nor the people who ask how I did in my collection and then exclaim 'I would have thought you'd do much better than that!' and proceed to tell me how well they did. I am rubbish...

Anyway ... nearly weekend! Which, um, is good? *hugs*

on 2006-02-17 11:07 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I shall have to come to Durham one of these days. There are so many people there I'd like to visit, not least you. *g*

You are not rubbish. I would have failed all my collections if I had had any; being a PPEist saved me from the horror, thankfully!

Is good. *nods* *hugs*

on 2006-02-19 05:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] clareyperson.livejournal.com
Have discussed the whole being nice to maths thing with a few physicists and mathemeticians that I know, and they all agree, maths is a classy lady and will reveal her secrets only to those that she feels deserve them. Glad you're starting to appreciate it though, and can you see now why I couldn't explain what differentiation was?

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