Crossovers
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ravenThe Attack of the Day Trippers is in full swing. I don't mind, I really don't... except that I do. Why can't they tidy up after themselves? Why can't they realise that some people do in fact live here and are not appreciative of flying crisp packets and thrown eggs? Stupid people.
Em's in Wales. She texts me occasionally, which is nice. The first one was at half nine - "Are you awake?"
I wasn't. I fell asleep again and slept till eleven. That wasn't a brilliant idea, but last night's insomnia wasn't either. When I can't sleep at night I do stupid things. Last night's stupid thing was to go downstairs and cut an apple - in the dark. With a Subway knife. I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up this morning with long cuts in my hands, but there's only a few scratches. I must have better night vision that I thought. Anyway, Em was texting to inform she had Sky and was watching M*A*S*H. I approved.
Physics is the revision of the day, although I did look at the Cold War. I don't understand transistors, or capacitors, but I am willing to put up with that. I like Physics because it makes sense. Unlike a certain other science. Sigh. I think I'll go and perch myself on the windowsill again, which I prefer to any other kind of revision at present. Plus, when I'm sitting at the stone table, the noise of the blinds swaying back and forth is like the sound of a person breathing, and it unnerves me.
So... procrastination is the apparent order of the day. I have been having random thoughts about crossovers, for some reason...
The problem with crossovers is you have to be familiar with both fandoms, which is doubly nice for you if you are, but not so nice if you know only one, as you get the feeling that a nice fic just went swooshing over your head. And then there's people who try to do the weirdest crossovers. LotR/Harry Potter... um, no. They might both feature magical goings-on, but that does not make the same thing. Crossing them over does not make sense.
Actually, few crossovers make sense. There's Stargate/X-Files, which is really a match made in heaven, because just thinking about it, the plot comes into your head. It's obvious, really. Mulder and Scully feel sinister vibrations from below the ground in Colorado Springs. Simple as that. And if someone hasn't already written it I'm the Flying Dutchman.
But so few other crossovers make such perfect sense like that. I remember someone who wanted Q and Picard to suddenly land in the 4077th, and although that would be so much fun to write, I don't think I could make a particularly classy piece of fiction out of it. Some sci-fi series(es?) do crossover nicely, but Star Trek and Stargate aren't in that category. All the people trying to do that - it does not work. Star Trek, even Enterprise, takes place in the future. If the Stargate Project really existed, it would be happening today, right at this very moment, now. A crossover has to get around this little chronological problem, and it has to do it convincingly.
Talking of whacked-out chronology brings me back to M*A*S*H, of course, and there's a show that really can't be crossed over with anything, if you ignore TNG randomness. I did, however, attempt to cross it over with Good Omens - the fic was called "Hallelujah." That was very subtle, though. Again, chronology is a problem - not with Good Omens, of course - but yeah, that's always the thing.
The other type of crossover, the easier kind, is my favourite and works for Stargate/just about anything. I love having SG-1 watching other TV shows. I mean, it works because we already know they watch a lot of TV - Teal'c and the Jerry Springer show come to mind - and it's an easy step to take. This one I have done, making SG-1 watch the Enterprise episode Unexpected. That was fun. And then, someone (not me, surprisingly enough) used the Stargate episode Window of Opportunity to have a bit of fun with the characters. If I remember rightly, she had Jack deciding to walk through the base naked to see if anyone would notice. Where could he get the idea but from Hawkeye Pierce, as Teal'c was watching old M*A*S*H re-runs at the time. With her permission, I did a sequel to that story. That was even more fun.
I'll admit to being extremely tempted by the "Q and Picard land in the 4077th" idea. Help me.
Em's in Wales. She texts me occasionally, which is nice. The first one was at half nine - "Are you awake?"
I wasn't. I fell asleep again and slept till eleven. That wasn't a brilliant idea, but last night's insomnia wasn't either. When I can't sleep at night I do stupid things. Last night's stupid thing was to go downstairs and cut an apple - in the dark. With a Subway knife. I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up this morning with long cuts in my hands, but there's only a few scratches. I must have better night vision that I thought. Anyway, Em was texting to inform she had Sky and was watching M*A*S*H. I approved.
Physics is the revision of the day, although I did look at the Cold War. I don't understand transistors, or capacitors, but I am willing to put up with that. I like Physics because it makes sense. Unlike a certain other science. Sigh. I think I'll go and perch myself on the windowsill again, which I prefer to any other kind of revision at present. Plus, when I'm sitting at the stone table, the noise of the blinds swaying back and forth is like the sound of a person breathing, and it unnerves me.
So... procrastination is the apparent order of the day. I have been having random thoughts about crossovers, for some reason...
The problem with crossovers is you have to be familiar with both fandoms, which is doubly nice for you if you are, but not so nice if you know only one, as you get the feeling that a nice fic just went swooshing over your head. And then there's people who try to do the weirdest crossovers. LotR/Harry Potter... um, no. They might both feature magical goings-on, but that does not make the same thing. Crossing them over does not make sense.
Actually, few crossovers make sense. There's Stargate/X-Files, which is really a match made in heaven, because just thinking about it, the plot comes into your head. It's obvious, really. Mulder and Scully feel sinister vibrations from below the ground in Colorado Springs. Simple as that. And if someone hasn't already written it I'm the Flying Dutchman.
But so few other crossovers make such perfect sense like that. I remember someone who wanted Q and Picard to suddenly land in the 4077th, and although that would be so much fun to write, I don't think I could make a particularly classy piece of fiction out of it. Some sci-fi series(es?) do crossover nicely, but Star Trek and Stargate aren't in that category. All the people trying to do that - it does not work. Star Trek, even Enterprise, takes place in the future. If the Stargate Project really existed, it would be happening today, right at this very moment, now. A crossover has to get around this little chronological problem, and it has to do it convincingly.
Talking of whacked-out chronology brings me back to M*A*S*H, of course, and there's a show that really can't be crossed over with anything, if you ignore TNG randomness. I did, however, attempt to cross it over with Good Omens - the fic was called "Hallelujah." That was very subtle, though. Again, chronology is a problem - not with Good Omens, of course - but yeah, that's always the thing.
The other type of crossover, the easier kind, is my favourite and works for Stargate/just about anything. I love having SG-1 watching other TV shows. I mean, it works because we already know they watch a lot of TV - Teal'c and the Jerry Springer show come to mind - and it's an easy step to take. This one I have done, making SG-1 watch the Enterprise episode Unexpected. That was fun. And then, someone (not me, surprisingly enough) used the Stargate episode Window of Opportunity to have a bit of fun with the characters. If I remember rightly, she had Jack deciding to walk through the base naked to see if anyone would notice. Where could he get the idea but from Hawkeye Pierce, as Teal'c was watching old M*A*S*H re-runs at the time. With her permission, I did a sequel to that story. That was even more fun.
I'll admit to being extremely tempted by the "Q and Picard land in the 4077th" idea. Help me.
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on 2003-04-17 07:25 am (UTC)'though I am, apparently, the evil bitch queen beta from hell...
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on 2003-04-17 07:36 am (UTC)*bows to "evil bitch queen beta from hell"*
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on 2003-04-17 07:39 am (UTC)I'm nice really...
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on 2003-04-17 07:32 am (UTC)Please don't hurt me...
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on 2003-04-17 07:40 am (UTC)Email it to me.
And let me know if you need it today or after the weekend
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on 2003-04-17 08:02 am (UTC)Hey, am back, and am answering the call for a beta, although if Flick is going to be evil (which I could never be) then you probably wouldn't need me.
Still, am here, if you want me.
*waves*
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on 2003-04-17 08:04 am (UTC)How was D of E? How was the crunchy pasta? Did Clare get you lost?
Can I ask you to beta, too? I like lots of betas - tis apparently more efficient, and besides I like second opinions.
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on 2003-04-17 08:08 am (UTC)Sure, I will gladly beta, just send it over. Are you online?
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on 2003-04-17 08:39 am (UTC)I've always had a fascination with crossover fic. Likely, that's because I don't watch a lot of television, but what I do watch, I watch obsessively. I always wanted to do a M*A*S*H/Providence crossover fic because Mike Farrell's characters in both are, IMHO, exactly the same person with a different name. There would, of course, be chronology issues, and I'd have to explain why Dr. Hunnicutt grows up to be Dr. Hanson, but I still think if M*A*S*H would cross well with anything, that would be it.
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on 2003-04-17 08:56 am (UTC)So tell me about Providence - I don't think I've ever seen it. I'm intrigued by the thought of BJ growing up!
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on 2003-04-17 09:05 am (UTC)I once read a Mashfic crossed over with Charmed. It was crap, though. And another time I read one with it crossed over with an other show but I don't remember which one. But, I didn't like it because I don't watch the other show. I'll see if I can find it and I'll leave another comment if I do.
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on 2003-04-17 09:44 am (UTC)The Charmed one is there. There's even a Power Rangers one.
this (http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1033994) is
a Mash/Gundam wing one.
this (http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=590587) is a Mash/quatum leap one.
(that's the one I mentioned in my previous comment).
this (http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=780492) is a Mash/black sheep squadron one.
this (http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=227291) is a Mash/Jeannie one.
this (http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=224572) is a Mash/Provindence one.
you get a lot of results if you do a google search for Mash crossovers.
::is scared::
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on 2003-04-17 09:47 am (UTC)Quantum Leap is the only one that looks remotely likely!
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