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Marriage Protection Week.

It protects the "sanctity of marriage." It is defence against "the crisis facing marriage today." It protects the "God-ordained building block of the family and bedrock of a civil society."

It also, incidentally, protects my right to run off to Vegas and marry the first male person I see.

I'm not getting into the complexities of it. Gay marriage is not generally recognised, but it should be. That's all there is to it.

What I find so utterly incomprehensible is the utter arrogance of these people. They really don't see how bigoted, closed-minded, intolerant and just plain offensive they are being. They are single-handedly dismissing the lives and loves of millions upon millions of human beings, everywhere in the world. And they're losing sight of the fact that marriage does not have to be religious. You can get married in a registry office, if you want to and you're straight. The various religions and their attitudes are not my point. You should be able to marry whoever you want, without your government telling you what to believe.

And even if that's not possible - and in most of the world this is the case - you should be able to get through the day without fundamentalist, twisted-Christian propaganda shoved in your face by the apparent leader of the free world.

Family values ain't got anything to do with it, because they don't exist. Name me a family value. They don't exist.

Anti-Marriage Protection Week is a listed interest on livejournal. Can I say... go with the slash? Write slash, write smut, iconise, make banners, wear rainbows and feel no shame for what you are.

This public service announcement has been brought to you by a pissedoff!Raven and a great deal of caffiene.

Thank you.

~Raven.

on 2003-10-15 08:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] absolutism.livejournal.com
i wrote a letter to a local newspaper here, calling the president a fascist bigot for wanting to ban gay marriages. however, i didn't sent it in, because they keep the address of the writer as a public record (i do believe.) and considering where i'm from, i sort of feared for my life.

on 2003-10-15 08:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cucharita.livejournal.com
In other news, Yay Snoopy!!!

on 2003-10-15 09:42 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] avagoyle.livejournal.com
mmmmm.... slash :D

on 2003-10-15 09:55 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] donnertheim.livejournal.com
To some extent, I can agree. Homosexual civil unions should be called just that, however - "civil unions". "Marriage" has a religious connotation to it; however, most sects of Christianity, and Islam in general, seem very hostile to the idea of gay marriages.
I could say a few things of your portrayal of Bush, but I think that's just something we're not ever going to see eye-to-eye on. *laughs*

on 2003-10-15 10:08 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I am planning to write to Dubya himself; hopefully they won't come round my house with a cruise missile and have me discreety taken care of.

on 2003-10-15 10:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. Rant rant rant; and GIP.

In all seriousness, I adore Snoopy. And Charlie Brown. And Peanuts. Too cute.

on 2003-10-15 10:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Ooh, speak of the devil. I was just thinking of you - as the only Conservative I know, I wondered what your opinion would be. I actually agree that the word "marriage" does have religious connotations, so I suppose it follows that a gay couple can be said to be "married" only if they belong to a religion that endorses homosexuality (I can only think of one - Wicca). I'm not sure what my own religion (Hinduism) thinks of homosexuality... I ought to find out.

As for our dear President Bush... *grins* You're right, of course. We won't see eye to eye on the man, so let's agree not to argue about him! :)

on 2003-10-15 10:23 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Indeed! *raises banner*

on 2003-10-15 01:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jessindistress.livejournal.com
You go, girl!!!! :D

~Jess

on 2003-10-16 06:38 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] emerald-embers.livejournal.com
Hopefully they won't come round my house with a cruise missile and have me discreetly taken care of. <-- I love this mental image. But without the you dying stuff. *pet*

on 2003-10-16 07:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
*proudly raises banner*

Can I get a t-shirt anywhere?

I am showing my pride. I am going around, I am putting up posters for the group in college, and I will not be made to feel ashamed by some mindless bigots. I am no worse than them. I am no better. I am an equal to everyone in society and I wish that I didn't have to say this. I just wish that it was an accepted fact of life, like the colour of my hair.

Gaaaah.

In other news- how did poor Clare not know about the wonder that is Vetinari? We need to educate the girl.

(In even more random news, I tried mentally filming Discworld, and the only one I could cast was the guy who played Tom Riddle as the young Vetinari. Fits, doesn't it?)

on 2003-10-16 08:38 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Yay!

Oh, I love the icon. Lovelovelove.

on 2003-10-16 08:55 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
Everyone is equal. Everyone, absolutely everyone is the same as everyone else. The same, but blessedly different.

You know what I mean.

We ought to get T-shirts made, actually. I also want a subtle rainbow somewhere on my bag or my clothing - I think Quiggins still do little rainbow patches.

Clare has not got onto the Watch ones yet, I think. I had a bizarre idea today - I wondered if we could get her a cuddly-toy-mouse or something wrap it in black and call it the Death of Rats? (She doesn't need a Raven...:P )

Failing that, I want to get her a sign:
THERE'S NO JUSTICE. THERE'S ONLY ME.

And yes, yes, yes. Perfect piece of casting. I love Vetinari...

on 2003-10-16 10:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] donnertheim.livejournal.com
Oh, come now. That's as bad as Christiane Amanpour saying that Bush's shocktroopers at FOX News intimidated the CNN reporters from reporting what was truly happening during the Iraq invasion, nevermind that journalists were traveling with the units involved, including line units. I mean, come on. As much as I love the image of Brit Hume holding a Colt Python to Amanpour's head, that sort of thing just doesn't happen in America.
If the government really did have black helicopters and Special Ops shocktroopers to pick up each and every single person who criticized the president, half my university (and all the liberal arts profs) would be gone tomorrow. As Ann Coulter (who happens to have been, if I remember correctly, a litigator for Center For Individual Rights in Washington, DC) once said, "We'll tell you when you're being oppressed."

on 2003-10-16 11:31 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] absolutism.livejournal.com
i wasn't talking about living in america. i live in the deep south (central florida, to be exact), in an area that is rather reknowned for it's 'love it or we'll beat you senseless attitude.' we don't like: gays, blacks, hispanics, or liberals. and really, i'm not exagerrating. i HAVE been threatened for my political views before (i tend to lean towards communism, though not extremely), and that's what i was referring to when i said 'where i live.'

on 2003-10-16 08:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] donnertheim.livejournal.com
"i tend to lean towards communism"

It makes sense, then, that you'd be persecuted. People who lean towards the most enslaving and murderous ideology in all of history typically are, even by those who don't care much for intellectual freedom themselves. (I know, pure communism is an utopian theory. Nonetheless, the Marxist-Leninist branch of communist theory, especially as perverted as it was by Stalin or mismanaged as it was by Mao...well, but you probably already know what I'm going to say about that, don't you?)

On the other hand, I've lived in the South. So I have a slight, slight sliver of sympathy. I'd advise that rather than send your letter in to a local newspaper, send it to a newspaper with a more national (and likely, friendlier) target audience. Something along the lines of New York Times, the Washington Post, or USA Today. Good luck getting it published. Free speech and diversity of opinion is what makes America the greatest nation in the world.

on 2003-10-16 08:38 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] absolutism.livejournal.com
yes, don't i seem like the murderous and enslaving type? please. the 'communism' that comes to mind when the majority of people hear the world is really, to me, nothing more than another form of democracy. a government that was run by greedy, self-concerned people. the communism that i say that i 'tend to lean toward' is none other than the utopian theory. and while i realize that communism in the form that it was meant to be taken it may never come to fruition.. well. it bothers me, and then again, it doesn't. because democracy was supposedly supposed to be the greatest governmental system ever created. i don't believe in free speech, and i don't believe in diversity.. and i mean that in the way that i don't believe that they exist and/or are tolerated.

but, to each his own. just because it isn't tolerated doesn't mean that i can't practice it.

have a wonderful day.

on 2003-10-16 08:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] donnertheim.livejournal.com
Oh, yes. America under Harding was just like China under Mao, what with the forced starvation and the Red Brigades and the Siberian Gulags and the...oh, waitaminute. Even under crappy presidents like Harding, America was infinitely better off than China was under Mao, or the former USSR under Stalin.

I don't think the utopian version of communism is possible. So I've resolved to fight communism in every way which I can. Why don't I think it's possible? Because it relies on everyone being a good little person, and there's always some asshole who's going to break the social contract for their own gain.

The democratic Republic is the worst system in the world...except for every other system. Ditto for capitalism. Fact is, America is the richest and one of the most free nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel all that free, but there aren't many government restrictions at all upon what you can say. Hell, you could call me a Spic or whatnot if you saw me. Under the fighting words doctrine, I could break your nose for it, but you could do it nonetheless. Call someone a Paki in London and you can be sued. It may not always seem great, but the results are there.

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