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So... I went to Yusra's party. I'll admit I didn't go because I was expecting enjoy myself, I went because Yusra's sweet and she wanted me to come, and I wasn't staying long.
But I actually did enjoy myself. I met Verena on the train there, and we went to her house together. Bev was already there, banging out "Fifth Dimension" on the piano. Yusra showed me her room - it was just like Becca's. No, seriously - it could have been Becca's room from a different angle. The same lilac and silver theme, the same squidgy carpet, all the same...
Becca and then Ella arrived in quick succession. Becca was suitably enthusiastic about Yusra's room, and we sat in there for a while before I shyly asked for something to eat.

"Something to eat" - understatement of the century. The amount of food was out of this world - and all good too, all kinds of stuff. This is Ramadan, and Yusra must have been much hungrier than me, but we all enjoyed it. The cake was a chocolate sticky thing with only eight candles, for some reason, but it was perfect once you took a bite. Becca made a friend of Yosef, Yusra's younger brother - they spent the whole time playing with Beyblades, which are apparently a kind of spinning top. I wouldn't know. Becca tried to teach me, and when I proved unworthy of Beyblade teaching, she spent her time pulling at my chains. "You see, you move when I pull them," she said. "That's how light you are!"

I left at about six, from a quiet, deserted station - Hall Road station is built like an Indian station, on a smaller scale, with fewer lights, and the trains burst onto the scene like firebreathing dragons.

And that brings me to the point of this entry. Or rather, it doesn't, but I've got to get to the point eventually. I'm sick of Stargate fandom. There, done it.

I'm sick of the continuous arguing, the continuous bitching and backbiting on most of the lists, and I'm sick of the way the Sam/Jack shippers have taken over the fandom with their continuing obnoxious-ness. The show itself seems to be leaning in a Sam/Jack direction, which ruins it in my humble opinion. And then you've got all the people who like Jonas - who were invisible until a week ago! - bitching about Daniel coming back. Nothing makes any of the fans happy - all the people who until a week ago never thought of Jonas at all are suddenly all OMGTHISSUX about Corin Nemec becoming a recurring character rather than part of the regular cast. I'm not saying I don't like Jonas myself - I think he's without a doubt the best thing about the sixth season, rather sweet and charming with a nice set of idiosyncracies - bananas? the Weather Channel? - but the rest of it isn't so brilliant. I haven't been bothering to watch the season 6 eps on Sky, just taping them, and that's only because [livejournal.com profile] snowdrop24 asked me to. Heliopolis doesn't help, either - since it became upload-your-own the quality has almost sunk to that of fanfiction.net.

I will admit to being a Danielite. I thought that Daniel was probably one of the most complex television characters ever written, with the obvious exception of Hawkeye Pierce. I enjoyed whumping Daniel, of course I did. He was pretty. But the furore over his death and departure, and now his return... I don't know if I can be bothered any more. I want to write one more Stargate fic, the one I've got planned for [livejournal.com profile] osiris13's birthday next week, but I really don't know if there will be any more after that.

It will be very odd, writing M*A*S*H and Enterprise fanfic. But everything changes.

on 2002-11-16 02:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snowdrop24.livejournal.com
I'm sick of the way the Sam/Jack shippers have taken over the fandom with their continuing obnoxious-ness. The show itself seems to be leaning in a Sam/Jack direction, which ruins it in my humble opinion.

I know you'll hate me for arguing with you again (I'm sorry!) - but many of the SJ shippers are saying the same about the Danielites and their continuing obnoxious-ness. I know it's not all of them - probably not even most - but some did get overly extreme when MS decided to leave, and Spaniel (*cough* sorry!) got killed off. There was some pretty severe flaming and name-calling etc. from them to, for example, people from the samandjack list. I think some people even left the fandom because of it.
And there was next to no S/J ship in season 5(!)

Just wanted to say there are two sides to the whole thing.

And I happen to prefer Jonas to Daniel now - the show's moved on with him now. But I still love (to harm!) Daniel as much as I used to. :)

Sorry if I pissed you off more...am off to get some choccy biccies. I'll send you some down the phoneline if you're still on trillian :)

*Hides*

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on 2002-11-16 02:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
You did piss me off more. Give me the biscuits.

Seriously, though, I hate the way everyone's constantly got an opinion on everything now. No-one ever shuts up and watches the show.

Ah, for two years ago when FiaD aired for the first time... that was when this fandom reached its peak. It's been going downhill ever since!

As for people leaving the fandom... that is what I'm planning to do...

on 2002-11-16 04:31 pm (UTC)
ext_5856: (Need I remind you that I'm evil? by c2a)
Posted by [identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com
Tisk.

Honestly, if everyone who prefered Hawk/Trapper fell out with everyone who preferred Hawk/BJ...

Well, there'd be no fandom left.

Conclusion: your fandom is obviously too big.


(sorry: </facetious mode>)

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on 2002-11-16 04:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*laughs*
Well, if I leave Stargate fandom... you'll have to put up with me as a permanent resident. Just think - me, who is used to a v.large fandom, in a teeny tiny one. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, oh, no. 'Tis time for a change.

on 2002-11-16 04:38 pm (UTC)
ext_5856: (Default)
Posted by [identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com
There are astonishingly few people in the fandom... but they're generally nice people.

There's a yahoo!group - mash-slash
There's an LJ comm, too, but barely any traffic.

It's really annoying - most big archives have one, or maybe two, fics. But that's all - you have to really wade through them.
And, if you try FF.net or similar, you just get loads of really crap het stuff ("It was after the war and Hawkeye had married Margaret and they had a baby and then there was a reunion and then she died and Hawkeye was very depressed." Gah!)

on 2002-11-17 08:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*nods* I gave up with ff.net ages ago... it's just too crap!
Why do you think we have such a small fandom? Is it because we're thirty years too late?

on 2002-11-17 10:28 am (UTC)
ext_5856: (Doug and Shirley - by fotu)
Posted by [identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com
Ummm.... well, it doesn't seem to have worked like that for Trek!

I think it's (ahem) becuase the show is so well written, with fully rounded chatacters, that there's no need to write fic about them just to see them as real people who could have affairs.

But there is an absolutely *huge* amount of after-the-war het stuff. Which really is odd!

ff.net: I gave up (finally) when they banned NC-17. At least partially becuase the only way to find slashy mash stuff was to filter on NC-17, where there are at least very few happy-ever-after, lalala fics. Also, I don't know what the grounds for NC-17 *are* but most stuff that gets classed as it would be a 15 certificate over here. *shrug*

on 2002-11-16 02:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snowdrop24.livejournal.com
And I agree about Heliopolis. I changed my homepage to Wolf Events, and now get most of my fic of various lists or authours websites. :)

on 2002-11-16 03:27 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-purring142.livejournal.com
All this talk about food is making me hungry =P

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on 2002-11-16 03:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
There's still some left in the fridge, if you want some...

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