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raven ([personal profile] raven) wrote2008-08-31 07:54 pm

incidental string quartets

Thing I did today that makes me awesome: assembled a piece of Ikea flat-pack furniture. By myself. With no screws left over. Which I am now sitting on. I feel good about myself.

Thing I did today that makes me slightly less awesome: drank a glass of water with a fly in it. Hmmm.

It is a quiet night in the Mousehole tonight, so I took a long long bath with the windows open and listened to the rain hitting metal outside, sonorously, and read Midnight's Children, which I have still not finished. I may, later, stretch to making stir-fry. With noodles. My life is terribly exciting right now, yes, indeed. That said, it's better tonight, and yesterday, and the day before, than it had been for a good long while; because while nothing has changed, outwardly - I am still busy and a little fraught, and as of today, have been rejected from potential training contracts five times over - I am feeling better about everything. My brain is not foggy. I'm still getting headaches, and still feeling abnormally tired, but they're just headaches, it's just tiredness; it's not soul-sucking loss of function, it's not like looking at everything through an oh-god-life-is-awful lens. So for that, I am very thankful. I feel almost normal, and like tomorrow will be good.

But, that leaves me in something of a dilemma. While I feel better, I don't know whether to chalk this up to the citalopram or not. I am actually tempted to think not - I've been told over and over that it takes a fortnight or more to build up enough to have an effect, and not only have I only been on it a week or so, I'm on a lower than standard dose. It might just be that I feel better because I feel better, because there are less opiates in my system, because I've finally got settled into a new place where I'm comfortable and happy, because the weather is changing, any number of things. And in the meantime, the citalopram is giving me a lot of side-effects. Worst of these is a much higher anxiety level, both as a baseline and with sudden nova bursts of it on top of that, which have caused no end of trouble. So I see my GP again on Tuesday, and I think I may tell her I'd rather not, if she doesn't mind. If I come off it and immediately fall into a depressed funk, well, lesson learned. But in the meantime I'm not sure I want to do this. I'll stay on it until after Thursday, so I don't get coming-off-it effects during a, er, job interview, but after that, yes.

So, I've been wandering about in a bit of a daze for a few days. I have informed [livejournal.com profile] very_improbable that she hasn't ever met me, that me fogged and medicated is not, well, me, and the next time she meets me, therefore, will be the first time, but nevertheless, she did come and stay for a couple of days, most of which were spent lazing about the place. On Friday night we went up to the Sleeper Service to see [livejournal.com profile] luminometrice and [livejournal.com profile] triptogenetica, who have just moved in, and who fed us handsomely. I, being somewhat drugged, got rather drunk rather quickly. No one seemed to hold this against me. It was a lovely, lovely evening, with plenty of silly jokes and ice-cream and people saying, "Well, who the fuck is Sarah Palin?"

(Yes, about Sarah Palin. As someone who was quite a vocal supporter of Hillary Clinton, it all makes me sad. I mean, I'm a woman. I'm also smart. (And these facts have nothing to do with each other.) If I got to vote in this election, I would still be smart. There's lots of debate flying about, but my thought is, this isn't sophisticated discourse; it's not sophisticated to argue that women will vote for Sarah Palin because she's a woman. Maybe some will, I don't know, but those women aren't co-referential with the women who supported Hillary Clinton, and they certainly aren't co-referential with, you know, feminists. Apologies for stating the utterly bloody obvious, but, yes, sometimes I take pleasure in doing that. Unrelatedly, she's the governor of Alaska. Wow. I am always amazed Alaska exists.)

Other things of note: the Guardian reviews a book about what we're all doing wrong; it is ten items or fewer; why being an Indian woman is difficult, delightful and occasionally just ludicrous.

And, finally. A request passed along from [livejournal.com profile] shimgray: he's looking for images and pieces of film that somehow embody the theme of "forgiveness"; more details.

And. Tomorrow we will have a kitten. Life is definitely on the up.
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[identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I am always amazed Alaska exists.
Unlike Delaware. Clearly Joe Biden is a mass hallucination. disclaimer: point nicked from [livejournal.com profile] subservient_son, who got very gleeful when he realised this and said "you have to tell Iona"

Also, I meant to email you about the Tesco article! Which really annoys me, insofar as one can get passionate about supermarket checkout signs, because I am a smart person with a good command of English and I often find it unclear whether "up to" is inclusive or exclusive. "Ten items or less" might be ungrammatical, but at least it's clear. /rant

ETA: Oh, and obviously, talk to me about crazy meds (http://www.crazymeds.us/) any time - I had the opposite reaction to citalopram, ie it took my anxiety levels back down to normal after Prozac playing merry hell with them, which just shows how much things vary from person to person, but still. Also TOMORROW! Omg! I will visit, maybe even next weekend? xxx
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[identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. Joe Biden cannot possibly be a real person. He plagiarises from Neil Kinnock. Who does that?

"Ten items or less", it dawns on me, isn't ungrammatical if you can show that the supermarket would be amenable to your cutting a bit off each item. (And yes, "up to" is not clear, I quite agree.)

Citalopram is not my friend, there may well be flailing. Am hoping this is all a sign that I'm now okay without stronger drugs than paracetamol. (Also: have just followed link, had a dig around, discovered that in Americaland is possible to pay $87 for thirty tablets. omg. omg. That is just... omg.)

TOMORROW! Next weekend probably good, actually; let me run past the others, but is certainly fine by me. Come back, yooooooou. <3

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[identity profile] tmpe5t.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That crazy meds site is brilliant! I went (back) onto the happy pills briefly last year but they made me even more mental, then coming off them involved a journey driving home from work spending the whole time screaming. Fun.

Also it mentions on there that anger is a manic behaviour which it would have been nice if my gp knew when he kept upping my prozac dose back during my grunge period...

Still, citalopram works well for people i know who've had it, and it can work that quickly, drug companies just cover their backs as everyone's different and they test on gerbils so what the hell do they know?

Incidentally, firefox thinks that citalopram is in fact 'extramarital' spelt incorrectly...

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[identity profile] osymandias.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The Tesco article mostly annoyed me with:

"uncertainty over whether the current notices should use "fewer" instead of "less""

Uncertainty? What uncertainty? Unless this is just an indication that even after being told, Tesco's sign-making staff still can't understand simple rules of grammar. 'Ten items or less' is clear but ungrammatical. 'Up to ten items' is grammatical but unclear. 'Ten items or fewer' is clear and grammatical, but it seems that Tesco believes the extra syllable might be a bit too taxing for customers to understand...
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[personal profile] selenay 2008-08-31 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
My immediate reaction is that the time taken for drugs to take effect okdoesn't always follow what everyone says. When I was being prescribed something for my migraines, I got all the 'lovely' side-effects immediately and never actually achieved the desired effect i.e. fewer headaches and migraines. I really hate those side-effects so I can sympathise a lot.

OTOH, I was on amitriptyline last year to help with the pain and the lack of sleep from the pain in my back and it kicked in within a day or two...and immediately stopped me having any migraines or headaches until I stopped taking it!

Best plan is always to talk to your doctor. It could be that with fewer headaches and less exhaustion, you're just feeling better. Whether that's the drug or an improvement in whatever is going on will be impossible to tell without some experimentation. Sounds like you have the experimentation idea already in mind :-) Doctors hate to see us in pain, particularly if they don't know why, so they aren't always that keen on patients attempting to establish their own drug regimen. I found that after a while I know what to do when I'm having a bad patch and I think that in many cases patients know their own bodies much better than the docs.

And now I shall stop being the stranger babbling in your LJ with little helpful to add :-)
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[identity profile] sunlightdances.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Just stepping in here to note how awesome amitriptyline was for me too. :) Curing neuralgia? Check. Helping my anxiety? Check. Awesome tablets of awesome. Am considering having molecular symbol (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Amitriptyline-2D-skeletal.png) of it tattooed on me.
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[personal profile] selenay 2008-08-31 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It was one of those meds that I didn't expect to do much after experience with meds, so was rather surprised that it did what the doc promised and helped with some other things that I hadn't bothered him with for years :-)

I came off it when my back started to return to normal (for me), but I wouldn't object to it if I got back into that state and the doc proposed it again.

[identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not the only person to tell me this. I'm now inclined to keep taking them for a bit, see what happens, but not raise the dose, as my GP initially recommended. (Unfortunately I don't like her much; she's a bit... vague.) But, I do feel better. I think the thing to do is maintain this.

(Babble all you like, I appreciate it. :))
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[identity profile] sunlightdances.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
KITTEN!

I'd just like to sadly offer hugs in recognising the feeling of feeling better (or indeed worse) and never knowing whether it's because of the tablets, or the weather, or life-events, or the fact it's a Tuesday... Yes. *hugs*

Also, every time Leo McGarry says 'big block of cheese' I think of you.

[identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
KITTEN. :P *further hugs* Look after yourself, you.

I am very glad you're liking TWW; it is the best thing ever.

[identity profile] subservient-son.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the point about Sarah Palin is all those Hillary Clinton supporters who said they'd vote McCain. Clearly, they don't agree with him on much, and so have either stopped caring and are cutting their noses off to spite their faces, or have some delusion that in the long run it will help Senator Clinton. If they then see a female VP, it might sure up that decision, either consciously or un-. Hopefully, though, sense will Prevail

[identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com 2008-08-31 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep being told about these mythical beasts, but never meet any. There are the usual batch of oddballs you get in all campaigns - c.f. Ron Paul supporters - and the usual crackpot websites, but nowhere have I seen a concrete, coherent demographic prediction of former Democrats voting for John McCain. Again, it's just a very simplistic choice, I think.

[identity profile] subservient-son.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the polling I've seen indicates it's 27% of Clinton supporters, and I've seen them interviewed on BBC and Channel 4 news. This was all before the Clintons' speeches at the Convention, though.
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[identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
When was that polling? Because yeah, I'm sure there are some Clinton supporters who would vote McCain (though I suspect it#s more a case independents/waverers who were attracted by her going back than confirmed Democrats jumping ship), but in terms of how important a bloc it is...there's a big difference between angry statements right after Obama pulled ahead, and decisions a couple of months on.

[identity profile] subservient-son.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
that poll was shortly before the convention - most worryingly for Obama, the number had increased since he won the nomination (I think this has generally been put down to him showing insufficient respect for Senator Clinton, and refusing to consider her seriously for the VP).

[identity profile] rosariotijeras.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I concur on the Crazy Meds referral. It is a fantastic resource.

And as someone who professionally has spent too much time in supermarkets for 2+ years now, it doesn't matter what the signs say. People aren't going to read it anyway!
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[identity profile] ressie-noldo.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Sarah Palin, as an anti-abortion-rights creationist who approves of drilling in the Alaskan Wildlife Refuge and disapproves of civil rights for non-heterosexuals, seems sufficiently unlike Hillary Clinton in every respect that it seems reasonable 'voting for her because she's a woman' will not actually be an issue among Clinton supporters. (That said, regardless of my opinions on her politics, I respect her for daring to have a career while being a mother -- which is depressingly uncommon in the religious right, one must admit -- and am already getting somewhat irked by the inevitable sexist bullshit, esp. 'but she's a bad mother because she ABANDONS HER CHILDREN AND GOES OFF POLITICALLY GALLIVANTING, OH NOES'. Personally, though, her politics terrify me, as does her support for hunting -- and the bearskin in her office, um.) (I may have too many opinions on this election for someone who can't vote in it, I note. Though, as someone who is going to be in that country for an indefinite period ≥ 3 years, I feel I'm justified.)

Tesco is silly, and should be hit with things; I can attest to exactly how horrifying Indian underthings are (v.). Also! Am glad you are feeling better, and hope that things look up (further up?) very soon.

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[identity profile] amchau.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
I well know the 'was it the medication or not?' debate. Experimenting is nerve-wracking but it has to be done. *hugs*

I'm trying to think of a phrasing for the Tesco which is both grammatical and clear. "No more than ten items"? It would be easy if they'd just use mathematical notation ("Items < 11"), but I guess that might confuse more people than it helped.

[identity profile] absinthe-shadow.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
I am so sad too. For an election in which I was hoping to be able to cheer on a great female candidate to turn into one where I'm inevitably reviling the only female candidate involved because her views are so repellent to me... Argh. And I think all the rubbish about women voting for her Just Because She's A Woman is deeply misogynistic - of course we are, in the main, STUPID and can only make decisions WITH OUR WOMBS!
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[identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
LADIES! You have LADY-PARTS and love other LADIES with LADY-PARTS! Vote for this LADY! She has LADY-PARTS!

[identity profile] absinthe-shadow.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
Now I won't be able to read about Palin without thinking LADY-PARTS. This is ALL YOUR FAULT. And I don't think it's what they were aiming for... Or perhaps - IT IS!

[identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely! This is the issue that bothers me the most. John McCain thinks women are stupid. Well, we knew that, but being reminded of it is still not good.

[identity profile] subservient-son.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's more people saying that women are angry, and would rather stop Obama winning so that Clinton can run again in 4 years time than choose the candidate closer to their actual positions. Certainly there are some women who are taking this line, it's not just commentators making stupid mysoginist assumptions.

[identity profile] subservient-son.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, not sure how representative this blog is, but i think it illustrates what's going on http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjBmYzBkMGFjMzllZmY2MTA5ZmI3MmQwNzJiM2IwNmM=
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[identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason that won't open, but the National Review is generally not something I would take seriously (is republican weekly). Anyway, that NYT article you linked to shows that fewer Clinton-supporting women than men are switching to McCain! Which suggests to me it's more a case of both Clintons' much-touted white blue-collar worker supporters seeing Obama as out of touch (or racism, or whatever) than of gender, though that's only conjecture. I am getting really sceptical about the veracity of the angry-women hypothesis, though I don't doubt that it informed McCain's choice.
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[identity profile] clubhopper15.livejournal.com 2008-09-01 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you feel better because you ARE better, not because of the meds. And yay, a kitten!!! As for Midnight's Children.. I love Rushdie. It took me several tries to plough through Midnight's Children but I enjoyed it in the end.